An INTERVIEW with
Robin D. Rogers
ESI Special Topics, June
2004
Citing URL - http://www.esi-topics.com/ionic-liquids/interviews/RobinDRogers.html
ccording
to our Special Topics analysis on Ionic Liquids research over
the past decade, the scientist ranking at #5 is Dr. Robin D.
Rogers, with 99 papers cited a total of 727 times. He also has
three papers appearing in the analysis: the #6 and #11 papers
published in the past decade, and the #18 paper published in
the past two years. In the ISI
Essential
Science Indicators
Web product, his record includes 190 papers cited a total of
2,613 times to date in the field of Chemistry. Dr. Rogers is a
Professor of Chemistry and the Director for the Center for
Green Manufacturing at the University of Alabama. He is also
the Editor for the journal Crystal Growth & Design. In the
interview below, he talks with us about his highly cited work
in ionic liquids.
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Why
do you think your work is highly cited?
We started publishing in the ionic liquids field at an
interesting time. The idea of using "Ionic Liquids" (ILs)
or "Molten Salts" for chemistry was not new; a lot of
really good work preceded the time of our entry, but there was a
change in the way people were thinking of the use of ILs. Early on,
the concept of using these liquid salts as bulk solvents sparked the
imagination and we started trying to make connections between the
generic use of solvents in industrial application and the chemical
and physical properties of the ILs.
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“We are just now getting to the point where many researchers consider the range of Ils and the fact that there are no 'generic' properties for a class of fluids which may have billions of examples!”
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I believe that one of our early communications got just enough
attention to point out the application of ILs to liquid/liquid
separation. The point is not that the idea was necessarily new, but
it was emphasizing that here is a bulk application of solvents for
which you should consider using a nonvolatile liquid salt.
The generation of new ideas around this theme led to additional
interest and the work was cited.
Similarly, we measured and published physical property data which
was an attempt again to bring some of this data to light. The idea
was to give people enough data to start evaluating the use of ILs in
other processes. A lot of great people are now measuring physical
properties, cataloging them, and even creating databases. This is
essential for the field.
Our work is thus most likely highly cited because it was
published early with the idea that people would use the data to make
further improvements and generate new applications.
What are the circumstances which
led you to your work?
During the 1980s as a faculty member at Northern Illinois
University, I was working on eliminating volatile organic solvents
in liquid/liquid separations by utilizing aqueous biphasic systems.
When certain water soluble, nontoxic polymers like polyethylene
glycol (PEG) are "salted-out" one generates two immiscible
phases, which are both are over 80% water on a molar basis.
Even before "Green Chemistry" was as widespread as it
is now, it was obvious that more environmentally benign chemistry
was needed, and certainly "volatile organic compounds" (VOCs)
had achieved a very negative connotation in the general public.
Our work with ILs arose from trying to develop non-VOC
liquid/liquid separations and a chance encounter with Professor Ken
Seddon. I met Ken at a Crystal Engineering Conference in Digby, Nova
Scotia, where we discussed whether there were any hydrophobic ionic
liquids that would be immiscible with water (and thus form two phase
systems for separations). I wanted to do separations from water and
ILs sounded like another alternative to VOCs which would compliment
our work with PEG aqueous biphasic systems.
How
would you describe the significance of this work for your field?
The role of our literature in the field has been to help increase
the awareness of the IL field, what ILs can do, but also what they
cannot do. We have tried to connect an underlying molecular-level
understanding between several apparently disparate areas which turn
out to be similar. In the process, we have attempted to generate
ideas for new applications of ILs beyond their use in organic
synthesis. I would really like to see us truly take advantage of the
unique chemistries ILs have to offer, and use them for what they can
do rather than just for what we want them to do.
How
much has this research advanced since you first started publishing on
it?
There has been, of course, an explosion of interest—both
academic and industrial—in the field. We have seen a wide variety
of R&D personnel with a truly interdisciplinary range of
expertise join the fray. This is exactly what the field needed.
Now we are seeing major suppliers (e.g., Merck/EMD, Solvent
Innovations, BASF, SACHEM, etc.) with in-house R&D, scale-up,
and business expertise. New technologies are being developed and
patented at an increasing rate. The price of ILs is decreasing and
availability is increasing. Academics are generating know-how with
technology and students which is being transferred to industry.
Despite the advances, we do sometimes see too much reliance on
older literature. The know-how in the field is still improving.
Referees sometimes attack papers for issues which have no bearing on
the application, but rather because of what they have heard is a
problem for "ionic liquids." Scientists start using an IL
they have read about in the literature instead of choosing one
specifically for the chemistry they wish to do.
We are just now getting to the point where many researchers
consider the range of ILs and the fact that there are no
"generic" properties for a class of fluids which may have
billions of examples!
Where
do you see this research going 10 years from now?
As the IL field matures we will see unique innovative chemistry
based on specific families of ILs that deliver a very specific
advantage. We will see a decline in the "me-too" chemistry
in which everything is tried in an IL regardless of whether it makes
sense to use an IL for that application.
The field will move beyond "demonstration of concept"
to utilization of ionic liquids in industrial process and technology
transfer. This isn’t hard for me to say since it’s already
happening!
The field is and will continue to define the unique opportunities
presented by ILs by understanding the fundamental nature of liquid
salts and what they can and cannot do.
ILs will be part of a tool box. Potential applications will be
researched, and development work will follow to demonstrate the
feasibility of new technologies to specific industries.
What
lessons would you draw from your work to share with the next
generation of researchers?
This is really not restricted to the IL work. Be curious. Reject
the "been there/done that" attitude you often face. Be
confident enough to follow your own ideas to completion. And, of
course, dream big.
Robin D. Rogers, Ph.D.
University of Alabama
Tuscaloosa, AL, USA
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ESI Special Topics,
June 2004
Citing URL - http://www.esi-topics.com/ionic-liquids/interviews/RobinDRogers.html
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