I actually started investigating rheumatoid arthritis immediately
after my medical school studies, which was quite a long time ago. I
started working in the late 1970s as a post-doctoral fellow at the
Institute of Immunology here at the University of Vienna, and
rheumatoid arthritis and autoimmunity research were a major part of
our investigations.
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“...the earlier we can intervene with the disease process, the better off the patients are.”
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In the late 1980s we were doing auto-antibody work and we
described a new auto-antibody in rheumatoid arthritis, anti-RA33.
From there we went onto cytokine research. That’s when I happened
to meet Professor Maini from the Kennedy Institute. We shared common
interests and attitudes toward research, so when his group embarked
on the trials of infliximab they invited my group to be one of the
four participating in the first controlled trial.
What
did you learn from the infliximab-methotrexate trial that you
published in 2000 in the New England Journal of Medicine? And
why was that paper so remarkably influential?
Well, that paper has several important aspects. Number one, it
demonstrated the highly significant efficacy of the addition of a
TNF-blocker to methotrexate in patients who failed methotrexate
therapy, and this is not only in terms of clinical changes but also
in terms of joint damage—something that had never before been
appreciated.
Moreover, while it was known that other agents were are also
active in terms of clinical improvement and radiographic changes,
this showed the important difference of having a median of zero and
a very, very low progression of joint destruction. To my
recollection this was the first paper that ever showed that. Several
papers later confirmed our findings.
Were
you surprised by the efficacy of infliximab?
Yes, it was probably a higher efficacy than we expected. I wouldn’t
say I was surprised that it was effective, but it was more so than
we expected.
Your
1998 paper in Arthritis and Rheumatism with Dr. Maini has also
been cited over 500 times in a relatively short period; what did that
tell us and why was that so significant?
If I recall correctly, that paper was actually held back for a
long time in the review process, including the NEJM.
Essentially that was the first study ever of a combination of a TNF-blocker
on top of methotrexate in patients who had active disease despite
prior methotrexate therapy. Moreover, we also set out to ask, a)
what is the optimal dose (and we tested three doses), and b) what
happens if we take away methotrexate and then have only the TNF-blocker.
It turned out that those patients who continued with methotrexate
had much better and prolonged efficacy than those who stopped it. So
this was the first paper that revealed that the combination of
methotrexate plus a TNF-blocker not only works well, but is
clinically superior to a TNF-blocker alone.
Why
do you think that turned out to be the case?
There are several options in that respect. The option we thought
about in those days is that methotrexate reduces overall
immunogenicity. But we really don’t know exactly what methotrexate
does. It is likely that methotrexate has a different target than the
TNF-blockers and may provide additive effects. There have always
been contentions that methotrexate acts more on interleukin-1. Last
but not least, methotrexate may alter the pharmacodynamics of the
antibodies, and so increase the bioavailability of the biologics.
Where
has the study of Infliximab and rheumatoid arthritis research gone in
the six years since your NEJM paper?
The field has gone in several directions. First, in the Lancet
paper we published a year before the NEJM paper and in
subsequent studies since then, a chemical compound, Leflunomide, was
shown to also be effective clinically and in retarding joint damage;
this is the latest addition to the traditional, non-biological
disease-modifying drugs.
With respect to the biological agents, one direction was to show
that the TNF-blockers have a particular effect on structural
changes. We showed this quite clearly in a paper that came out last
year. Even if patients did not change their disease activity at all,
they had a significant reduction of joint damage if treated with a
TNF-blocker plus methotrexate. We’ve known for many years that
disease activity and joint damage correlate with each other. But
this association is disrupted by TNF-blockers. So that’s one
direction we’re still working on, which is to understand what’s
going on with these therapies.
Another aspect relates to predicting response to therapy, which
appears to be possible by virtue of baseline clinical and laboratory
characteristics and, especially, by characteristics seen three
months after onset of methotrexate therapy. And here again, the
addition of a TNF-blocker to methotrexate disrupts this association.
Another direction comes from the recognition that TNF-blockers,
as great as they are as therapeutics, still leave about half of all
patients insufficiently responsive. Thirty to 50% of patients do not
respond to the therapy. So new therapies are needed, and two new
ones were just licensed a few months ago. Those are abatacept and
rituximab.
Are
they both TNF-blockers?
Neither is. Abatacept is a so-called co-stimulation blocker and
appears to interfere with activation of T cells. Rituximab depletes
B lymphocytes.
What
do you consider the most challenging aspect of rheumatoid arthritis
research?
To understand the pathogenesis of the disease in more detail and
to find a cause. One of the interesting aspects of this research is
that, almost regardless of which of the novel therapies you use,
none of them give you 100% success. All of them get about 50-70% of
patients with a clinically discernible response and 30-50% with a
clinically meaningful response.
It’s interesting that we have all these different molecules and
still very similar results with all of them—confirming not only
the heterogeneity of rheumatoid arthritis, but also suggesting a
genuine multiplicity and redundancy of pathogenetic events: in some
patients, interfering with a particular molecule appears to be
necessary and sufficient, while other molecules or more complex
events drive disease in other individuals.
How
would you describe the rate of recent progress in rheumatoid arthritis
treatment?
I think what we’ve experienced over the past decade has been an
incredibly fast advance—literally from, say, 1993 or 1994. And
this is one of the areas of research that has led to important
insights in general for treatment of all inflammatory diseases, for
understanding some pathogenetic aspects as well as reaching
successful therapies. It’s important to remember that while TNF-blockers
started with rheumatoid arthritis, they have also been used now in
Crohn’s disease, for psoriatic arthritis, and for ankylosing
spondylitis, which is an inflammatory spine disease. We had very
little to offer these patients but now the TNF-blockers have been
shown to be highly successful there, too.
What
sparked this revolution since 1993–1994?
I think there are three aspects to that. Number one is we’ve
had novel insight into the immunology and pathogenesis of these
diseases. Number two is the advancement in the pharmaceutical
industry to produce bulk amounts of receptor constructs and
monoclonal antibodies, which is very heavily linked to the molecular
biology revolution that happened over the past 20-30 years. And
finally, the third aspect is that clinical epidemiologic research,
or maybe I should say outcomes research, has made highly significant
advances in rheumatology. Questions, for instance, of how we measure
disease activity and responsiveness to therapy. Which variables are
best taken into consideration for assessing disease activity and
improvement or deterioration?
The parallel development in these three areas, sort of
serendipitously, led us to where we are today: innovative thinking,
together with innovative production capacities by the industry and
innovative clinical analysis have allowed for this sort of
revolution.
Where
do you see this research going in the next five to ten years?
I hope that 10 years from now we will have cured rheumatoid
arthritis; that we will have found enough remedies to have something
available for every patient. In fact, we already now aim for what we
call "remission of disease activity." This is an important
aspect in the context of therapeutic approaches. We have totally
changed the paradigm. We go for tight control using established
disease activity indices; we will switch therapies relatively
rapidly if one is not sufficiently successful. And we aim for the
lowest possible disease activity.
We hope to get patients effectively into a remission-like state.
This may not be a cure. They may have to still continue therapy,
just as diabetics have to continue taking insulin, but it is a
cure-like situation. It normalizes life expectancy and quality of
life and other aspects that are very important to the patient. This
is what we now aim for.
Is
there anything else you’d like to tell the general public about your
research?
Well, there is one additional aspect. What has developed in the
past decade is the establishment of early arthritis clinics, so as
to diagnose rheumatoid arthritis as early as possible. We know the
disease progresses pretty fast, even early on. Within a few months
we can see joint damage on radiographs. We can sometimes see this,
even at presentation. So the earlier we can intervene with the
disease process, the better off the patients are. We can retard the
progression of the disease significantly if we start therapy earlier
rather than later. And so early diagnosis is a critical aspect of
the advances we’ve made.
Another point I would like to make is that when it comes to
research like this, the kind of group collaborations that came
together to do this infliximab-methotrexate trial cannot be spoken
of highly enough. These international groups join forces to address
different facets of the disease and try to test hypotheses. You
could say we march together both within departments with my
immediate co-workers as well as in cooperation with other centers,
and I believe this is also key to the kind of remarkable success we’ve
had over the past decade.